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gadzfilm
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« on: January 25, 2008, 05:30:43 AM »

What engine has day and night cycle ? I don't think about Unigine,Cry Engine,Unreal
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ZaPPZion
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 07:43:58 AM »

i know a really good website: www.google.com
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 09:06:14 AM »

What you mean by which engine has it? Do you mean which has it built in? TV3D does not have day-night cycle built-in, someone here has done it easily.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 10:25:26 AM »

Pretty much any engine can basically do a day night cycle even the old n64 had one. If you remember Zelda. The last engine thing I wrote had one basic I made two sky domes. One for stars and one for day sky and the stars were slightly bigger then I just lowered the alpha and darkened the day sky. I attached a 2D sun to a pivot and rotated around the center of the world or 0X,0Y,0Z. Since I was working with an older version of directX I didnt have shaders so I had a 2nd image that would pop up behind the sun for when it was setting or rising. Smiley It was pretty easy to do and I also had a dynamic bloom filter. So if the sun was really high in the sky and you looked at it everything would get brighter but the more the sun set the less bright it became. I think this is called LDR or low dynamic range. I am not sure though.

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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 12:24:05 PM »

Dude, you should really just f*** off with your stupid engine comparison questions. Start with learning some more about game development and the difference between game engines and 3d engines before thinking about returning.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 01:08:40 PM »

Dude, you should really just f*** off with your stupid engine comparison questions. Start with learning some more about game development and the difference between game engines and 3d engines before thinking about returning.
hmm why did you write down my thoughts ? Tongue I didnt want to post it strong like that, but at least it's done now, and he can just go on and find out how 3d games work before posting that he's gonna make the new WoW
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2008, 08:49:52 AM »

did you guys just flame someone?  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2008, 01:24:44 PM »

Wouldn't you agree that the post was too stupid to take seriously?
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2008, 11:45:17 PM »

don't feed the trolls...
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 07:59:28 AM »

here is an basic example (movie) of day/night cycle on TV3D
http://rapidshare.com/files/88943188/daynight_cycle.rar

Sky: Zak's sky shader
Water: Non-reflective water from Zak's also

Ty Zak...  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 08:57:31 AM »

Wouldn't you agree that the post was too stupid to take seriously?
i agree.

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2008, 01:14:55 PM »

Wouldn't you agree that the post was too stupid to take seriously?
No. I think it was written by someone who is probably new to game development and almost certainly by someone for whom English is a second language. The way he uses English words suggest to me that he might be Eastern European, but that's only a guess.

Beyond naivety and marginally less than perfect English, he was polite and well mannered. I expect he will have <insert expletive>'ed off by now, and I don't expect he'll come back either. No doubt he'll tell his friends not to visit the community, and encourage them to use whatever engine he settles on instead.

I'm sure many of us - myself certainly included - have been guilty of lacking patience with people whose first post is them explaining that they're 12, have a wonderful idea for a MMORPG and they just need 4 programmers, 6 artists, 2 musicians and a team of server/web programmers to build it. This wasn't one of those posts though. It's a perfectly legitimate question, and just because TV doesn't have any kind of built-in support for day/night cycle doesn't mean that other engines don't. In fact I know one for certain that does, but even if it was a naive question, that was the worst it was. He wasn't asking for people to write his game for him, or give him the complete sourcecode to a complex game because he doesn't know where to begin.

I'm surprised that the TV mods don't actually take a harder line on these sort of posts. Normally, I'm in favour of quiet moderation. Most of us are perfectly capable of bickering, arguing, debating and then the next day forgetting whatever it was we were discussing and giving the person we were arguing with a helping hand with something. But when people who are brand new to the community get told to <expletive> off and don't come back until they're experienced ( which begs the question how they're supposed to get experience if no community will take them, but perhaps it's only this community which considers itself too good for them ) it's literally taking money out of the pockets of the developers. It's not just one lost sale, it's a lot of lost sales. Because I don't know how many of you use other game programming forums, but I do know that in most of the ones I use, the TV community has a wide reputation for being incredibly unfriendly and unwelcoming to newcomers.

With this thread fresh in my mind, I'd be hard put to argue them down. Which is a damn shame, when you consider that people like Zak, Blind, and lots of others are actually very helpful to people of all skill levels.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2008, 03:16:57 PM »

Generally speaking, the TV community has had to suffer lack of documentation and official 6.5 samples and tutorials for a long time and it gets quite frustrating seeing and having to answer the same questions asked over and over again.

That said, I think you're completely off base about the reputation.  The TV community is the most active, the most helpful to new comers, offers the most free source code, is exceedingly patient and understanding. 

Finally, some of us remember a time on the internet when new comers to an internet message board or forum would follow basic etiquette before posting.  A large part of that etiquette involved lurking and reading old messages and familiarizing themselves with the community prior to making that first post.  Nowadays etiquette is all but dead and people have no qualms about shirking their own duty and responsibility and begging other people to take the time to answer basic questions with easy to find answers, for them.  That sort of behavior is not very respectful.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2008, 05:46:54 PM »

I totally agree with Hypno, I'm fairly new to these boards, and when you're using it the right way (using search function for basic questions first), you do get a lot of fast answers, and all the people are nice. This guy posted like 20 times on different sections of the forum, with the same question, and he didn't seem to have any experience or whatsoever. When he would have asked the same question with a near to perfect plan I think he would have gotten way more usefull answers. Just my 0.02
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2008, 04:55:53 PM »

I totally agree with Hypno, I'm fairly new to these boards, and when you're using it the right way (using search function for basic questions first), you do get a lot of fast answers, and all the people are nice. This guy posted like 20 times on different sections of the forum, with the same question, and he didn't seem to have any experience or whatsoever. When he would have asked the same question with a near to perfect plan I think he would have gotten way more usefull answers. Just my 0.02

seconded, this sole question is not what made me make that post. It's his whole list of posts, comparing truevision to other engines/asking stupid questions/demanding useless features and pointing at the disadvantages of truevision. Together with his bragging about his enormous funds and team expanding every day I felt this post was well worth it.

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