Strange thing about my firewall and AMP II

[Borys Pomianek]

So then there came the time to download AMP II technical demo and to run it, after runing it and seting the resolution to 1600 x 1200, before runing it again for the changes to take effect i tryd a simple cubic room to play in the demo. after playing the demo, turning the thing off i noticed a messege from my firewall concerning some strange app trying to connect to the net.

Well this looks to me as spyware becouse i dont think the menu in the demo needed a internet connection and even the name in the messege was something else.

But that is not the best of it: After not allowing the connection i tryd to run the demo again and what ?? lots of errors that it caled for things in memory that dosent exist and such.

I would newer use a product that isnt free and have spyware like things inside

As for all you tv users watch out for AMP II as it might do more that there is on the page

For now iam going to sleep and tommorow, uninstall.

Ps. better stick with tv ;]

[JohnPierre]

lol, i guess ill stay away from it

[MeH]

One more point for TV! (unless Sylvain has some evil tricks up his sleeve :shock:, j/k)

[JohnPierre]

LOL, sylvain during the day :  :lol:
sylvain during the night  :twisted:  buwahhhhhhahahahahaha!!!

[GoodVillain]

<Sylvain> Hey want the 6.5 source?
<GoodVillain> Sure!
<Sylvain> http://truevision3d.com/sourcecode.exe
<Sylvain> Be sure to open up all your ports on your firewall and grant the sourcode.exe internet access.
<GoodVillain> Whoa, my anti-virus popped up saying I am infected with the Backdoor.SylvainRulz virus.
<Sylvain> Be sure to unblock that too.
<Sylvain> Do you manage your banking online?
<GoodVillain> Yes, why?
<Sylvain> Thats good, no reason at all...

[MeH]

:lol: :roll:
GoodVillian & BadVillian?

[Stryker]

huh... i didnt have that problem... well you can always look through the source code...

[sriram]

Thats really strange...I've been using AMP II with no such problems[and I have ZA Pro a Firewall]...AMP II is a really good engine,it has potential..and IMHO its as good as...Doom 3[in terms of looks] :shock:  But the Downside is,its not being developed anymore :cry:

[Stryker]

its not :-/ well.... thenthe GF2/4MX problem will always be there then

[Borys Pomianek]

Well i dint wanted to say that its bad becouse i downloaded it becouse it lookd cool on the screens. Still i just dont trust companys that have a webpage that looks like created by a kid at school and a cool proffesional product to download.

Its like buying a porshe at pizza hut.

It is just wierd.

I dont thinkt that people that can code a graphics engine that good cant create a cool webpage.

My graphic engine lookd like the mid 90's and i can create a lot better webpages
BP

[potato]

I dont thinkt that people that can code a graphics engine that good cant create a cool webpage.

Writing code and good web design are not intrinsically linked Sure, a coder will have no problem learning HTML - but how he is able to put it to use is another story.

[Borys Pomianek]

well if he can create something that will display super dupper special effects + content + simulating 3d i dont understand why he cant create something that looks just static, with normal clean design and content.

Imagine someone is an asm and c wiz then he get his hands on JavaScript and cant create a simple script.

And that would be hard to imagine.

I understand that propably they wanted a site that they have now but "wanting" is great for non-profit project,  in commercial projects there is "marketing".
And i cant believie they want so much money for it.
It dosent do anything special.

I dont think its easier than the nebula II engine and for sure nebula II is a lot better than amp and tv 6.2 ( dint see 6.5 so i cant compare ) but you need a team of programmers to get practicall stuff from it, still the nebula II is free for any comercial or non comercial product, for anything and amp is not.

Graphic arent the most important part of an engine, and from screenies i think amp looks like tv 6.5 anyway  or around that but that is just screens.

BP

[potato]

well if he can create something that will display super dupper special effects + content + simulating 3d i dont understand why he cant create something that looks just static, with normal clean design and content.

Coding the groundwork that simulates physics, applies shaders, and does crazy 3d transforms is not the equivalent of being to actually, say, model the cool things you see on screen, or programming the artsy shaders. Art and code are quite separate and discrete.

[AriusMyst]

well if he can create something that will display super dupper special effects + content + simulating 3d i dont understand why he cant create something that looks just static, with normal clean design and content.

Coding the groundwork that simulates physics, applies shaders, and does crazy 3d transforms is not the equivalent of being to actually, say, model the cool things you see on screen, or programming the artsy shaders. Art and code are quite separate and discrete.

Yea, a prime example of this is Watermans "ocean/sea" videos. Sure it looks nice, and that is impressive. But what is more impressive is the underlying code, what he has done is VERY nice, not just visually but you know the backbone of code is what makes it tick over, and to produce such a nice result it is more than likely quite complex. Good artwork <> Good code, the two in tandem produce a nice result but getting one right on its own does not produce the other automatically.

[Borys Pomianek]

of course i agree AriusMyst, i dint wanted to say that coding is designing.

I wanted to say that creating a great web page is nothing compared to creating even a bad graphics engine.

Having a great web page is well... great.

I started a game project. By now i have a forum, web page and i am working on hand made design ( the design of the web page is hand painted then photographed to get the effect we want ) and will probably finish it by the end of the week.

My game is still in the design phase because creating it is so more difficult.

When i finish my game with my team ( in about 1 year i hope or more ) i think i wont have problems with creating even the most complicated web page.

Even now when i look at php i can read it a lot more easier after programming more time in c++.

and they can always hire a team to make them they're web page. 3000$ and they can have a dynamic web page with great design. I don't think that its much for someone that sells products for 600 $.

Still i don't have commercial exp with the web ( i have created lot of web pages but that is just creating ) so i may be wrong ( as always ).

BP