Available texture memory : -33 MB

[DarekRuman]

Ive got 1 GB of memory on my graphics (ati radeon 5870) and that is what I've got from TV :

05-13-2010 17:40:57 | Engine Version : 6.5
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | ENGINE INFO : DLL Compilation time Mar  7 2009 11:47:20
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INIT : Initialize Depth
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INIT : Using Antialiasing with 8 samples
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INIT : Initializing the device in windowed mode, with a render surface size of 1280x800, format 22, depthbuffer 75
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | VIEWPORT MANAGER : Main viewport initialization
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | VIEWPORT MANAGER : Main viewport initialized (1280x800)
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INIT : Initialization successful !
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INFO :  3D Card : ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series  | Card ID : 26776 | Driver ID : 71635
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INFO : Available texture memory : -33 MB
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INFO : Vertex Shaders 3.0 supported in hardware.
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INFO : Pixel Shaders 3.0 supported in hardware.
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INFO : Driver used is a DirectX9-level driver 'atiu9pag.dll'. Excellent
05-13-2010 17:40:57 | DEVICE INFO : Card Type Geforce6xxx/7xxx/8xxx/ATIRadeonX1xxx  Level card, third generation of programmable card

[AriusEso]

Yea, it's been wrong for a loooooooooooooong time. Mine for example says:

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05-13-2010 18:03:01 | DEVICE INFO : Available texture memory : 2661 MB

[DarekRuman]

Yea, it's been wrong for a loooooooooooooong time. Mine for example says:

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05-13-2010 18:03:01 | DEVICE INFO : Available texture memory : 2661 MB

But it's better to get higher positive number that negative

In my older app (on older computer) - I used to math if user has enough memory to load high detail textures - and now .. i cannot do that

Sylv - fix it or give us another way to math graphic card memory.

[Lenn]

There are external tools by Nvidia and ATI which let you diagnose your memory and a huge number of other things in real time. It overlays data onto the screen regardless of what mode you're running. Google it.

[DarekRuman]

There are external tools by Nvidia and ATI which let you diagnose your memory and a huge number of other things in real time. It overlays data onto the screen regardless of what mode you're running. Google it.

You missed by point. I'm developing games that many users can buy and run on their computers. These are fast and slow computers, with buildin gfx and powerful gfx with lots of ram.

So my app just gets available gfx memory from TV function and loads textures suitable for customer gfx.
When I'm getting negative number, app thinks that there is a very low ram card and loads low quailty textures, even if user has 2GB of ram on gfx.

That is why I think that this function is quite important for game developer.

[Lenn]

Oh yea. That is true. I'm sure you can find external libraries which can do it tho. Would be nice if it were fixed tho. :/
Sylvain said yesterday he will fix it and he found a DirectX sdk example of it so it should be quick/simple to add in the next release.

[AriusEso]

Oh yea. That is true. I'm sure you can find external libraries which can do it tho. Would be nice if it were fixed tho. :/
Sylvain said yesterday he will fix it and he found a DirectX sdk example of it so it should be quick/simple to add in the next release.

Indeed. I will never quite understand why people don't idle on IRC more. Sylvain seems much more at home there than the forum medium.

Darek, here is log after we all saw your thread.

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01(18:10:36)    12Toaster 13:12 arius that 2500 gb 's of video memory though is a windows thing
01(18:11:08)    12Toaster 13:12 I have 2798 total graphics memory
01(18:11:16)    12Toaster 13:12 and only 1 gb of dedicated video memory
01(18:12:52)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 I know what it is.
01(18:12:59)    12Toaster 13:12 okay
01(18:13:24)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 I'm saying you could work out that actual video ram and report that.
01(18:13:28)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 the*
01(18:13:44)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 My laptop says something like -800mb.
01(18:14:27)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 It does make one wonder why Sylvain reports it at all in the debug.
01(18:14:37)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 If he isn't willing to make it accurate.
01(18:17:00)    12Sylvain 13:12 I suck, maybe
01(18:17:32)    12Toaster 13:12 lol straight from the man himself!
01(18:17:54)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 lol
01(18:18:17)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 You should post that as your answer to the bug thread.
01(18:19:11)    12Sylvain 13:12 you know why the -33?
01(18:19:16)    12Sylvain 13:12 it's because it's unsigned
01(18:19:37)    12Sylvain 13:12 and it's actually 4096 - 33 = 4063
01(18:20:13)    12Toaster 13:12 :S
01(18:20:59)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 That blew Toaster's mind.
01(18:21:00)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 lol
01(18:22:44)    12Toaster 13:12 yes indeed it did
01(18:22:57)    12Toaster 13:12 -33 is like some magic number
01(18:23:31)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 1950.
01(18:23:36)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 I was -33 in 1950.
01(18:23:48)    12Toaster 13:12 lol
01(18:23:58)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 Actually, my dad was -4 in 1950. lol
01(18:24:14)    12Toaster 13:12 I was -33 in 1956
01(18:24:38)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 D_Chunk was -33 in 1906.
01(18:24:40)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 He's ancient.
01(18:24:48)    12Toaster 13:12 lol
01(18:24:57)    12Toaster 13:12 what about sylvain?
01(18:25:09)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 Sylvain is same as me I think.
01(18:25:12)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 Maybe 1951.
01(18:25:31)    12Toaster 13:12 I was closer to you than I though
01(18:25:33)    12Toaster 13:12 thought*
01(18:25:45)    12D_Chunk 13:12 heh
01(18:26:02)    12Sylvain 13:12 omg
01(18:26:12)    12Sylvain 13:12 there is a "videomemory" sample :p
01(18:26:15)    12Sylvain 13:12 in dxsdk
01(18:26:19)    12Toaster 13:12 lol
01(18:26:20)  12· 13!14arius[afk] 14knows
01(18:26:30)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 I figured you'd just ignored it. rofl
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 GetVideoMemoryViaDirectDraw
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 dwAvailableVidMem: 508 MB (532979712)
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 GetVideoMemoryViaDxDiag
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 dwDisplayMemory: 1787 MB (1873805312)
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 GetVideoMemoryViaWMI
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 dwAdapterRAM: 512 MB (536870912)
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 GetVideoMemoryViaDXGI
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 DedicatedVideoMemory: 508 MB (532979712)
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 DedicatedSystemMemory: 0 MB (0)
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 SharedSystemMemory: 1279 MB (1341353984)
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 GetVideoMemoryViaD3D9
01(18:26:57)    12Sylvain 13:12 dwAvailableTextureMem: 1786 MB (1872756736)
01(18:27:00)    12Sylvain 13:12 ...
01(18:27:03)    12Sylvain 13:12 so wtf?
01(18:27:03)    12Sylvain 13:12 :p
01(18:27:09)    12Sylvain 13:12 which one i take
01(18:27:11)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 dwAdapterRam.
01(18:27:52)    12Toaster 13:12 I'd take what arius said too thx
01(18:28:32)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 One assumes the card has 512MB given the dedicated reads 508. So I guess the dwAdapterRam is the good one.
01(18:29:46)    12Sylvain 13:12 and there is a fukcing FBX importer in sdk too
01(18:29:48)    12Sylvain 13:12 wtf
01(18:30:41)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 lol
01(18:30:45)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 I didn't know about that one.
01(18:30:55)    12Toaster 13:12 lol
01(18:31:06)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 I guess cause really no X support anymore.
01(18:31:07)    12Toaster 13:12 sylvain finds the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
01(18:31:47)  12·14 arius[afk] 14:12 Yea, in a minute he's gonna be all ID3DXDevice !?

Excuse the bad formatting, too much to really spend time cleaning it up.

[ZaPPZion]

better formatting:

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Toaster  arius that 2500 gb 's of video memory though is a windows thing
Toaster  I have 2798 total graphics memory
Toaster  and only 1 gb of dedicated video memory
arius[afk]  I know what it is.
Toaster  okay
arius[afk]  I'm saying you could work out that actual video ram and report that.
arius[afk]  the*
arius[afk]  My laptop says something like -800mb.
arius[afk]  It does make one wonder why Sylvain reports it at all in the debug.
arius[afk]  If he isn't willing to make it accurate.
Sylvain  I suck, maybe
Toaster  lol straight from the man himself!
arius[afk]  lol
arius[afk]  You should post that as your answer to the bug thread.
Sylvain  you know why the -33?
Sylvain  it's because it's unsigned
Sylvain  and it's actually 4096 - 33 = 4063
Toaster  :S
arius[afk]  That blew Toaster's mind.
arius[afk]  lol
Toaster  yes indeed it did
Toaster  -33 is like some magic number
arius[afk]  1950.
arius[afk]  I was -33 in 1950.
Toaster  lol
arius[afk]  Actually, my dad was -4 in 1950. lol
Toaster  I was -33 in 1956
arius[afk]  D_Chunk was -33 in 1906.
arius[afk]  He's ancient.
Toaster  lol
Toaster  what about sylvain?
arius[afk]  Sylvain is same as me I think.
arius[afk]  Maybe 1951.
Toaster  I was closer to you than I though
Toaster  thought*
D_Chunk  heh
Sylvain  omg
Sylvain  there is a "videomemory" sample :p
Sylvain  in dxsdk
Toaster  lol
arius[afk]  I figured you'd just ignored it. rofl
Sylvain  GetVideoMemoryViaDirectDraw
Sylvain  dwAvailableVidMem: 508 MB (532979712)
Sylvain  GetVideoMemoryViaDxDiag
Sylvain  dwDisplayMemory: 1787 MB (1873805312)
Sylvain  GetVideoMemoryViaWMI
Sylvain  dwAdapterRAM: 512 MB (536870912)
Sylvain  GetVideoMemoryViaDXGI
Sylvain  DedicatedVideoMemory: 508 MB (532979712)
Sylvain  DedicatedSystemMemory: 0 MB (0)
Sylvain  SharedSystemMemory: 1279 MB (1341353984)
Sylvain  GetVideoMemoryViaD3D9
Sylvain  dwAvailableTextureMem: 1786 MB (1872756736)
Sylvain  ...
 Sylvain  so wtf?
 Sylvain  :p
 Sylvain  which one i take
arius[afk]  dwAdapterRam.
 Toaster  I'd take what arius said too thx
arius[afk]  One assumes the card has 512MB given the dedicated reads 508. So I guess the dwAdapterRam is the good one.
 Sylvain  and there is a fukcing FBX importer in sdk too
 Sylvain  wtf
arius[afk]  lol
arius[afk]  I didn't know about that one.
 Toaster  lol
arius[afk]  I guess cause really no X support anymore.
 Toaster  sylvain finds the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
arius[afk]  Yea, in a minute he's gonna be all ID3DXDevice !?

Sorry, couldn't bear the sight and wanted to read it still

[AriusEso]

rofl, nice man, nice.

[DarekRuman]

NICE - hope that will be fixed in next release.

Thanks for help with making TV better